Supreme Court hears arguments in 'vampire rule' gun case

Supreme Court hears arguments in ‘vampire rule’ gun case

Spread the love

The U.S. Supreme Court heard arguments on Tuesday in a case over a Hawaii law that prohibits concealed carry permit holders from bringing guns on private property that is open to the public.

Wolford v. Lopez challenges a Hawaii law that prevents gun owners from bringing handguns to beaches, bars, restaurants that serve alcohol and gas stations without the owner’s consent. California, Maryland, New Jersey and New York have similar restrictions on guns in public spaces.

“The presumptive ban is inconsistent with our national and historical tradition,” said Alan Beck, a lawyer representing Hawaii gun owners who sued the state.

Beck argued that Hawaii based its law on historical traditions like Black codes which prevented newly formerly enslaved African Americans from obtaining firearms. He said this application is inconsistent with the Second Amendment.

“We can’t use a racist, discriminatory law to apply to a law that applies to the general public,” Beck said.

However, Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson said she did not understand why Black codes should be excluded in the determination of the law if history and tradition are compelling factors.

Neal Katyal, a lawyer representing Hawaii, argued that the purpose of including Black codes in its explanation is to argue evidence that states have historically been allowed to implement gun regulations. He said Hawaii’s law is based on 200 years of customs against carrying weapons.

Justice Neil Gorsuch appeared skeptical about Hawaii’s arguments on the basis of black codes and compared it to “garlic in front of a vampire.”

“You could have rights and regulations that affect someone’s interests but they actually don’t implicate their constitutional rights,” Jackson said, appearing to be in favor of Hawaii’s restrictions.

Similarly, Justice Sonia Sotomayor pressed Beck on whether people are guaranteed a constitutional right to carry guns on private property.

“Nothing about Hawaii’s custom, tradition, or culture creates an expectation that the general public carries guns wherever they go,” Sotomayor said.

Justices also dug into questions over the distinction between guarantees in the First Amendment and the Second Amendment over private property rules. Justices Amy Coney Barrett and Neil Gorsuch questioned lawyers for Hawaii over the difference between bringing a gun to a gas station versus soliciting at someone’s house.

Since the Second Amendment deals with gun possession rather than free speech, “the first amendment rules are different from the second amendment,” Katyal said.

In lower court litigation, Hawaii pointed to a 1771 New Jersey law and 1865 Louisiana law that explicitly required consent before entering a private property of any kind with a gun. Lower courts upheld Hawaii’s arguments on the basis of these laws.

Several justices on the court appeared skeptical of these arguments, and Justice Clarence Thomas said later laws, like the 14th Amendment, should be considered in this case since it was generated in response previous legal restrictions.

“They wanted to disarm the Black population in order to help the [Ku Klux] Klan terrorize them,” Justice Samuel Alito said about Black code laws.

Katyal said Black code laws were a “shameful part of our history” but argued they represent how gun owners did not have the right to carry firearms onto private property.

“Even the opponents of the Black codes recognized that you have no right to carry a firearm onto someone’s property,” Katyal said.

John Commerford, executive director of the NRA-ILA, urged justices on the court to rule against Hawaii’s law.

“The Aloha State’s radical ‘vampire rule,’ which prohibits concealed carry permitholders from entering private property without the express consent of the owner, is a blatant violation of the Second Amendment,” he said.

The “vampire rule” refers to the folklore that vampires need an invitation to enter private property.

The justices will decide whether to uphold Hawaii’s gun restrictions by the end of its term, slated for June or early July.

Leave a Comment





Latest News Stories

GOP hardliners lift U.S. House blockade, challenges remain

GOP hardliners lift U.S. House blockade, challenges remain

By Thérèse BoudreauxThe Center Square A group of Republican hardliners in the U.S. House finally lifted its blockade of the floor, allowing a critical national security funding bill to advance...
U.S. House passes 10 bills to strengthen homeland security, address terrorism

U.S. House passes 10 bills to strengthen homeland security, address terrorism

By Bethany BlankleyThe Center Square The U.S. House has passed 10 bipartisan bills advanced by the U.S. House Committee on Homeland Security, which the committee says will strengthen homeland security...
Gulf lawmakers aim to extend state borders to 9 miles offshore

Gulf lawmakers aim to extend state borders to 9 miles offshore

By Alton WallaceThe Center Square A bipartisan coalition of Gulf Coast lawmakers is pushing to change a 73-year-old law that limits their states' maritime boundaries to 3 miles offshore, potentially...
Ongoing border security prosecution efforts: 23 extraditions in one month

Ongoing border security prosecution efforts: 23 extraditions in one month

By Bethany BlankleyThe Center Square Border-crime related prosecutions are ongoing with extraditions playing a key role in prosecutions. The latest extradition to Texas was the 23rd in one month, FBI...
Graham: Man of great faith, fierce fighter for South Carolina, America

Graham: Man of great faith, fierce fighter for South Carolina, America

By Alan WootenThe Center Square From colleagues in both major parties to leaders of foreign nations, appreciation for the public service of U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham has been overwhelming since...
$424.9M considered for projects at Fire stadium questioned

$424.9M considered for projects at Fire stadium questioned

By Jim Talamonti | The Center SquareThe Center Square (The Center Square) – The Chicago City Council may vote Wednesday on deals to spend $424.9 million of tax increment financing...
Multi-state lawsuit challenges $1B in federal education grant cuts

Multi-state lawsuit challenges $1B in federal education grant cuts

By Elyse ApelThe Center Square Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel has joined with 14 other attorneys general on a lawsuit attempting to stop the U.S. Department of Education from cutting...
Supreme Court justices defend $225 million budget request

Supreme Court justices defend $225 million budget request

By Andrew RiceThe Center Square U.S. Supreme Court Justices Elena Kagan and Amy Coney Barrett made a rare appearance before lawmakers on Tuesday to defend the high court’s $225.1 million...
Election 2026: Cooper steps away from responsibility of historic prison release

Election 2026: Cooper steps away from responsibility of historic prison release

By Alan WootenThe Center Square U.S. Senate candidate Roy Cooper, whose name was on a lawsuit against the NAACP that ended in 2021, on Monday took a clear step away...
Illinois congressman pushes to repeal federal tax cuts

Illinois congressman pushes to repeal federal tax cuts

By Sean Reed | The Center SquareThe Center Square (The Center Square) – A Democrat Illinois congressman sparked pushback after urging fellow Democrats to repeal all aspects of President Donald...
Illinois state diversity leader resigns amid criticism

Illinois state diversity leader resigns amid criticism

By Jared Strong | The Center SquareThe Center Square (The Center Square) – The head of the embattled Illinois diversity commission has moved to a different state job after a...
Illinois Quick Hits: Chicago committee approves infrastructure funding around soccer stadium

Illinois Quick Hits: Chicago committee approves infrastructure funding around soccer stadium

By Jim Talamonti | The Center SquareThe Center Square (The Center Square) – The Chicago City Council’s finance committee has approved $424.9 million for public access, road improvements, a river...
Retired judge urges federal court to reject key talc researcher's testing

Retired judge urges federal court to reject key talc researcher’s testing

By Daniel Fisher | Legal NewslineThe Center Square A special master hearing evidence behind tens of thousands of lawsuits over Johnson & Johnson’s Baby Powder has urged the court to...
U.S. inflation cools to 3.5% in better than expected June report

U.S. inflation cools to 3.5% in better than expected June report

By Andrew RiceThe Center Square U.S. inflation decreased by 0.4% in June, for a seasonally adjusted total of 3.5% over the year, driven by rapidly falling energy costs, according to...
Court: Parents can’t sue teachers unions over illegal strikes

Court: Parents can’t sue teachers unions over illegal strikes

By Jonathan Bilyk | Legal NewslineThe Center Square (Legal Newsline) - Parents do not have legal rights to sue teachers unions for calling illegal strikes, which allegedly lead to learning...